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The bubble crashed and the internet didnt die. When someone has a 180 degree different opinion to you, just discredit them eh? Also, bitcoin lacks value in Kenya. As for USD working has many reasons, required to participate in the largest economy in the world, the military power behind said economy, etc. A bitcoin is not an investment, just as. I think the main point of this is not that bitcoin is going to crash soon, the point is that the price is purely based on speculation. Now the ball has reached proportions where it could blow up anytime, and people in this forum are talking about the small change like the bubble and P/E ratio in the stock market. 1. Since every appliance (computer, lightbulb or actual heater) is a 100% efficient electrical heater in a thermodynamic sense, you could shut off your heaters and run mining computers instead, to get the same amount of heat. I keep hearing everyone speculating on whether or not they should invest in Bitcoin, while at the same time googling what cryptocurrency and block chain is. January 11, 2018, 4:23 am. If not, you may want to think about selling. Buying real estate, gold, stocks, even ETFs and Bitcoins, all of these have risk. This is exactly what I was thinking. Bitcoin is a case study, and they have no idea (or choose not to believe) that theyre headed for the unfortunate future footnotes of that case. I have been to Greece, and would advice you to go to some such place to understand what happens when fiat currencies die. Who wants to sacrifice to earn financial freedom when you can just invest in Bitcoin and achieve the same in less than a year. So, Bitcoin is a protocol invented to solve a money problem that simply does not exist in the rich countries, which is where most of the money is. Speculation is fine, as long as you are using only money you are willing to lose. >The poorest in Sub-Saharan Africa earns the same money that you sitting in Manhattan, NY do. Do you think Governments and Regulators have sat on the sidelines so far while Bitcoin is just exploding to a point that MMM had to sit and write a huge article? Id love to know what your background is. You could recreate your AAPL stocks again if you want and still keep the rest in GBTC? Iota and RaiBlocks use something different than the blockchain to make each user a miner by requiring each transaction to verify other transactions which prevents transaction fees. I know a lot of people in the DOTCOM bubble in the 2000s that were too focused on maximizing profits and lost most of their wealth on paper after the tech crash. TomTX, nothing was answered. These are preposterous numbers. I own my currency as it is today (EUR and USD), how come you do not own yours? Another intelligent case by highly experienced crypto business lawyer Preston Byrne. Thank you Jane, I have been waiting for someone to point this out! A lot of jobs today exists only to oversee things. If you think you are hardcore enough to handle Maximum Mustache, feel free to start at the first article and read your way up to the present using the links at the bottom of each article. For those saying specific instances of cryptocurrency do not have long-term potential (Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero, etc), the network effect is a force to be reckoned with. An Interview with Matt Cutts: Can the Government grow a Money Mustache? At the moment, theyre incredibly volatile compared to the monetary systems of the developed world. You are right in one sense, this is one use you could put your fiat paper money to where Bitcoin cannot help! This is Part 1 of 2. Because I advocate something, I am not raving Mad! The value of bitcoin is very far removed from any sensible fundamental valuation, and the thing driving up the price seems to be a common sense that it will be worth more in the future. BURST ( http://burst-coin.org ) as an example uses PoC (Proof of Capacity). When evaluating investment bubbles, it means looking at where everyone is throwing their money no matter how many billions and being willing to say Bull. Either one will get your CAPE ratio back into whack. That was called new economy. Yeah, IF YOU SHOUT LIKE THIS IT MAKES YOUR POINT COMPLETELY VALID. coinwarz.com keeps track of profitability, but it can rapidly swing with changes in coin price. The bad news is that this means Bitcoin is going to keep wasting more and more electricity as the bubble goes on, and it doesnt matter that no one uses it anymore. January 2, 2018, 5:54 pm. Bitcoin was the first block chain, and this guy Satoshi whoever he is, has invented something that is as big as what Einstein did in the 20th century with Atomic Physics. They dont tend to go longer than that. Think about it and I know you realise what is happening. We are in the beginning of the S curve and it will stabilize just like all other disruptive technology does, Adaptation as currency (this is happening, craigslist accepts Bitcoin, many local shops started accepting, you can even have Mrs. MM get paid by bitcoin on etsy. Bitcoins will never degrade over time, your fingernails degrade. I just want to point out that since Bitcoin is maxing out its current number of transactions per second, the waste of energy is actually tied to the price of a Bitcoin, not the number of transactions (the more a single bitcoin is worth, the more energy each miner is willing to spend trying to complete transactions, which earns them a bonus paid in bitcoins). As far as Im concerned, this is the final word on Bitcoin. And yet imagine everybody started bidding up Cancer-Pills, to the point that they cost $17,000 each and fluctuate widely in price, seemingly for no reason. It just means that some price levels are reasonable, and some are not. Mr. We dont buy average cars or average homes we buy older cars, and smaller homes to cut costs and live a modest life. If you cant grasp the difference between the two, then by all means sink your capital into crypto-currencies as they are currently valued. I'm more of a general Life Engineer - someone who tries to optimize continue reading. There used to be cool arbitrage opportunities on a website called purse.io, where you could buy amazon products for a discount using bitcoin but transaction fees have made those types of business models (temporarily?) dont understand why you say it will cost more? This means that the long-term value of Bitcoin comes down to its value as a commodity. Same with internet search: remember AltaVista, Lycos, Dogpile? Gotta! January 5, 2018, 7:01 am. As should everyone. Nothing wrong with speculation, as long as you are doing so responsibly and understand the risks. 3 years and 1 week later. How many here have switched from Mortgage Fast Pay to Money Market? So for it to be a global currency taco bell is going to have to start paying kids in btc. It makes you want to laugh and cry. As the money supply increases, purchasing power is concentrated with the money creators at the expense of others holding the currency. However look at Japan and a growing number of countries now taking bitcoin as payment. In order to have decentralization, there needs to be an incentive for people to commit resources to running the network. However, cryptocurrency is what incentivizes the network to secure a blockchain, so theyre two sides of the same coin. Do you really think you own your Fiat paper? Consensus over its value. WantNotToWantNot January 2, 2018, 5:54 pm, I considered investing in Bitcoin back in the summer, but decided to spend my time doing other Mustachian things such as enjoying the outdoors and spending quality time with family and friends. Adeney retired from his job as a software engineer in 2005 at age 30 by spending only a small percentage of his annual salary and consistently investing the remainder, primarily in stock market index funds. But I did put about $600 in Bitcoin over a year ago. January 16, 2018, 4:53 pm. I cant help but feel that a big part of the reason for Bitcoins continued rise is that theres no safe, practical way for us Bitcoin-skeptics to actually take a short position on it. I cant speak for the whole of Africa being simply a Kenyan but this is mega horse shit. Let me know when you find a buyer for your $70k fingernail clippings. January 3, 2018, 9:49 am. Darn things didnt even pace with inflation. Look at Cardano for example, they are building blockchain with built in treasury and KYC/AML endpoints. I can 100 percent guarantee you that my mom and pop will still be using fiat paper, and so will I, and so will the worlds governments. People then go on to say, If theres even a ONE PERCENT CHANCE that this happens, Bitcoins are severely undervalued and they should really be worth, like, at least a quadrillion dollars each!!. So I also read a lot about investment bubbles and fundamentals and how to tell those apart. In stating that humans have never had a chance to own their own money you have hit on the essential problem with bitcoin and any other monetary alternative. Only the most weak and fearful people will allow themselves to be stolen from for the sake of mythical national security that comes from trillions of dollars of military spending. It has now grown quite a bit, of course. Bitcoin is the viral buzzword that has the momentum. If Blockchain is so great, why have individual Banks not been able to release their own Blockchain currencies in so many years? Thats cool. Perhaps its the utter lack of any regulation that baffles me, because blockchain I do kinda get, which is why I did put some money into IBM (yes, very un-Mustachian) after reading about their auto-encryption developments and its applicability in protecting personal info and consumer data. As such, its an awful means of trade. While silver and copper has been used as a form of money (notably imperial China, it was a silver based society with gold used as a high currency), golds special attributes has always been seen as a form of value storage and trusted trade medium. (see: Long Island Iced Tea Corp. becoming Long Blockchain Corp.). It once creates large rainbow tables on Disk. When the common person does it, it can cause very big problems. But its not some spectacular Instant Trillionaire piece of magic. Bitcoin dropped 20% overnight, so it is not currently a very reliable store of value. Mr. Money Mustache It is the main currency by which you can obtain other cryptocurrencies. Read through TomTXs posts below Michael and you will get to know who started. Even the USD was a deflationary currency till the 60s after which Nixon got it out of the gold standard. I dislike all this vitriol given to speculators when they are fully valuable members of an economic system. Bitcoins can be traced, your fingernails cant. Most of us, especially in the US and Europe, are free and are allowed to accumulate wealth through education and hard work. There is no reliable way to track or trace paper. I agree with most of this article (rather a rant, eh? When you say bitcoin is bad, I am asking how Fiat is any better at it? drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.) A REAL currency must be low risk+ zero (better subzero) return+good liquidity, and all those three things MUST go together. Or physical goods if you want to use it to record land or vehicle deeds, etc. Devs in their mid 20s who owe the IRS 50k and lost most everything. I could definitely sell these for more later. After all, the ONLY thing that gives a fiat money its value is what someone else is willing to give you for it. But how do you know youre investing in Amazon, and not Pets.com? Im not advocating throwing all your money into crypto (I havent see anyone say that). (a Case Study), https://medium.com/p/81f5ffa42deb?source=linkShare-6c666494704c-1516693614, https://www.statista.com/statistics/326707/bitcoin-price-index/, https://globalnews.ca/news/3977745/ethereum-blockchain-canada-nrc/, https://prestonbyrne.com/2017/12/08/bitcoin_ponzi/, https://seekingalpha.com/article/4134745-bitcoins-path-1-million-bubble-bursting-anytime-soon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-zIbVEjVpQ, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeMv9uKpAZg, https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/btc?HashingPower=190&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=1293&CostPerkWh=0.12, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania, http://contrarianedge.com/2017/12/01/bitcoin-millennials-fake-gold/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States. Are you saying wisened mustachians own no stock or ETF of any tobacco companies? Whether you should get out is a difficult question. Bitcoin is not stupid per se. January 3, 2018, 1:08 pm. Mr. Money Mustache on Twitter: "I dunno man. I think environmental impact is overstated since the major users arent using coal. Started by myrrh. My friend who has a Masters in Computer Science inquired with me about investing in Bitcoin before Christmas and I told her essentially what I thought as mania. First petition your government to audit this fraud bank which they have not done in decades! January 2, 2018, 9:01 pm. Guys. Unconfirmed BTC transactions already in the 6 digits now. But youre entitled to your opinion nonetheless. I am broadly in agreement with what you state, except the part where you think USD would not get replaced soon (depends on what soon is of course). However, in 2004 when Facebook was being launched it was looked at as a funny little friend site. The need for a cryptocurrency is very real. Its interesting that you state the high water mark was $700,000, but now its $500k. LennStar Now I can forward it to friends and family who are chattering about it while Iwell, while I call it stupid. 1) If gold is a bubble, it is a > 5000 year one Well, shit. 4. The price went on a historic and seemingly unstoppable run all the way to $150 per barrel in 2008. This is no different from rich wall street people and government controlling fiat currency.. Its the last one! I want to know will it make my day to day life easier? Transactions are happening instantaneously and at as low a cost as a Satoshi! https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/arts/design/has-the-art-market-become-an-unwitting-partner-in-crime.html. Most of this money is being spent on military operations to secure foreign resources and kill people will dissenting viewpoints in the name of national security. Nobody needs to worry about whether terms will be met. 36 terawatt is not something taken easily from renewables at current rates.. 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